They are also cost-effective because not as much machining is required for the inner walls of the outer tubes, where cylindrical precision and smooth sliding surfaces are critical. There is also less inner tube surface area requiring plating and the like.
With inverted front forks,the inner tubes are not as exposed because the upper part of the outer tubes is what is attached to the frame. Patenting it. Maybe copy from Showa or Ohlins! Nice to see some of the successes and failures of these big companies.
They are always working at something. Simple solution. Those Fox guys ought to have me on the payroll. Come on Marzocchi! Hopefully fox can break the exclusivity of their hybrid air 40 with the session 9. I was only considering the possibilities of this earlier, but I decided id prefer to have the heaviest bit lower down for stability, but they have probably though of that anyway, considering its their job to.
ScandiumRider Feb 9, at Just for all the misinformation that's flying around here: Kashima hard anodized coating was a process developed by the Miyaki Group in Japan in It is performed by the Miyaki Group still, and all fork companies pay them license fees, not Showa or Kowa.
Wouldn't that front brake mount be flexy? Not exactly known for their stiffness. Maybe I am just jaded from the year I spent on a shiver, but color me skeptical on this. If they can do it stiff enough for MotoX Maybe because pounds aren't quite as crucial in MX as they are in DH.
But then again, who said, that flex is so bad? When I got it right, one of the biggest Pro's of carbon as a construction material for frames is, that it flexes and therefore handles much butter as it has something like a built-in suspension system to absorb highspeed vibrations. Use your common sense when replying.
Moto x bikes aren't running 's So, take a few hundred lbs, do the math, and a 14lb fork on a dirt bike is like having a 2lb fork on a DH bike. That, Sir, is bullcrap. Actually we are talking like 6lb for a DH fork on a bike that weighs ca. WITH fuel. This is anything, but NOT equivalent. And thats exactly my point Take a look at the development of bikes Wow, your switching btw KG and lbs and it makes NO sense.
So, a bike that weights lbs And 6lbs at 38lbs. See the ratio difference. And a quarter lighter and twice as stiff comment Some of us have forks that have seen the most insane beatings and crashes and have still lived without breaking after 10 years. Try that with your new ultra light forks. There is a reason forks are obsolete as fast as computer equipment now Point is, many people non pro go to races on stuff from the early 2k's like shivers, and spank the shit out of people timewise running top end new stuff.
And that is a fact. Bar none. Stainless Axle My shivers are stiffer than Foes F1 forks which have a crazy big axle OD. So for the extra weight nothing compares to stiffness. No fox forgery, no rock shoxfailurely, no crapery nothing. First of all, I really did mean a kg or to be exact kg motobike But then, for making my point on the actual subject, namely the weight ratio discussion, I figured it would be helpful to talk in lbs since you startet the discussion with lbs.
What is more, I really don't understand what your point is in using my own argument in which I advised YOU of the significant ratio difference and therefore disabled your bullcrap equality argument, and now YOU are trying to tell me something about the different weight ratio?
I mean But wow, it definitely made you look really smart insulting me how stupid it was, to switch between KG and lbs, although it was just in the first and examplery sentence that I used KG. Now to get to your stiffer and weaker comment. I was talking stiffness - not durability. The production technology has increased, so has the stiffness, but there is less material.. But then again, why is it, that the bikes get lighter and lighter?
The demand induces the supply, bro. Besides that, I'm actually in complete agreement about the fact, that parts should not get too light at the expense of durability, that's exactly what I wrote a couple of lines further down to some guy that foolishly demanded a cut of weight from the 40 - and got neg propped for it. So to sum it up, you actually do agree with everything I said, but you just needed to distinguish yourself by talking pseudo knowledge bullcrap and then trying to talk yourself out of it, so nobody notices that it was actually loads of stupid meaningless words?
I wonder if they'd have pursued it if Manitou let them use their hex head axles. Holy shit, last week I was saying I wish fox made a inverted fork Jimfunn Feb 9, at Look cool. Only a matter of time 'till they switch to USD forks. Jacko Feb 9, at Pickleman Feb 9, at I'm pretty sure i work like a block away from these new offices, because on my way to work the other day I saw a fox van pulling out Bullitproof Feb 9, at I think that 29" wheels could be one of the key driver for a USD fork to be in development.
Where does the corrosive to seals brake dust go I guess many will remember Shivers when they look at these! Fox inverted carbon fork from i think, on my friends skibike www. But kashima is not needed on an invert fork in my opinion. I guess because the 40 isn't open bath it helps. Bah, if you want an inverted fork just get a Shiver. XCNewfie Feb 9, at I lost my cool when I read Lumpy12's comment Back your shit up dumbass, don't just insult one of the biggest MTB industries like Fox.
Love this! OutIaw Feb 11, at Won't go into production cos Fox can't make seals live like manitou ones :-D. KennyKillsIt Feb 9, at Lets play the Speculate on the Price game.
Any takers? Fox are def getting ready for the possible 29er pandemic. TheLongMan Feb 9, at I like RAD programs. It's a prototype product-- time for me to declare that it sucks now, will always suck, and sucks compared to X company's version. Oh and I have to remember to spell everything incorrectly while doing so. Just waiting to see the price tags making me just think no way am i getting anything like these maybe i got more chance of banning pamala anderson than affording them.
No i dont think so Foes F1 its dy far the best dh inverted fork just because the build it no for comercial reasons but with no money and resources limitation.. Just for example Foes F1 uses hybrid coil-air set up from IF you check Curnutt-Foes history you wil see that a lot of modern technologies its in this products for a lot time..
I Know i owned in the past 2 foes, with the foes fork, i know it's not the same, my point is just that the look of the fork is similar. Iinstead of making this huge contraption they should take some weight off from the 40's. Or may be they should just leave them 40's as is, since it is by far better performing as any superlight boxxer and holding up Red Bull Rampage whipwallride abuse, whereas the tattered in like bits and pieces. If I remember correctly, Gee was actually not the only one who managed to get the landing dialed, but the other guy don't remember the name just didn't have a fork to ride on anymore, after hitting the ground.
Not to disgrace any names here, in fact I would love to ride a Ti one time soon, but then again I'm not up for the abuse those guys can throw at their forks.
I thought April Fool's Day falls on April the 1st. This post just makes me want to buy a dorado. GermanyFreeride Feb 9, at Sarkons Feb 9, at I really dislike the look, but I'm sure this shock will kick ass. InkBytezTattoo Feb 9, at Read the latest stories causing a buzz this week in News…. Weekly wind-on: your roundup of the stories that mattered in motorbikes this week. This week, Yamaha unveiled the updated version of their MT with tweaked styling, a slightly With a spanking new factory comes a fresh start and expectations of spanking new bikes as the The everyday Streetfighter?
Ducati's new V2 takes tech from baby Panigale. Ducati are broadening the appeal of their Streetfighter line-up for , revealing a more Ducati have launched their most bonkers super naked to date — a lighter version of the Streetfighter LiteLok take lightweight motorbike security to the next level. Lightweight motorcycle security specialists LiteLok have unveiled their latest product, the Core An inverted fork Upside Down Forks is the exact opposite of a conventional fork as it is a massive tube called the Stanchion extending to a smaller tube called the Slider.
In this case, the massive Stanchion appears to be engulfing the thinner slider. In this type of fork, the triple tree clamping occurs on top. Inverted forks are ideal for sport bikes or race bikes as the flexing occurs in the bottom of the fork, just by the clamps. Conventional forks have certainly been around for a very long time as they provide stability and safety for most types of motorcycle riding that even includes sports.
The reason why conventional forks are so reliable is that they are a proven formula that has stood the test of time. The reason why inverted forks were invented was to provide more stability in breaking rigidity.
This pertains to the stability of a motorcycle as it breaks from faster speeds. By lessening the amount of weight placed on front wheel of the motorcycle, the inverted fork is able to provide more flexibility in handling.
For those wondering why stiffness results in more safety, stiffness makes it easier for the driver to control the motorcycle while it is breaking from faster speeds. If stiffness is absent from the equation, a driver would most likely lose control of the front wheel due to the momentum of weight placed on the front wheel.
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